Not sure about the 1st list, but I found confirmation about the 2nd list. And I found even more info about other stuff as well.
http://www.animeph.com/winter-2013-n...n-preview-list
The list above is not only for this winter season, but maybe for all of 2013.
(LD-Skipper, make sure you pay close attention to the list of anime/OAD/OVA/Movie, I saw something EPIC listed.)
And confirmation about the 2nd list:
http://www.squidoo.com/anime-season-winter-2012-2013